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Is it only offensive if it’s not funny?

(otherwise known as How Big a Hypocrite Am I?: a continuation of my diarrhea of the fingers about the use of the words retard and retarded)

So while I was sick this week, one of the things I watched in my basement sick camp was Louis CK’s new DVD, Chewed Up. Louis works in the Carlin school, where he likes words for words’ sake… and some of his favorite words include those that would be thought dirty or distasteful or rude. All of which I give a big thumbs up to most of the time.

In fact, the opening of this hour is all about words that he likes as words that are not acceptable out in the world and he goes into a great bit about some of them, including “nigger,” “faggot,” and “cunt.” I kept waiting (of course) for him to bring up “retard,” but since that’s my obsession — and probably because for most people it doesn’t even cross their minds that it might be objectionable — it didn’t come up. But anyway, he went on and on about these words and using them in and out of context, etc, etc, and I found myself in agreement with most of what he said.

And then he talked specifically about “the n-word.” Not “nigger,” but people actually saying “the n-word” as a substitute, and how he finds that offensive, because the euphemism means is that when someone says “the n-word” on TV or whatever, what your brain does is it says, “oh, ‘the n-word’ means ‘nigger,’” so in effect whoever says “the n-word” is really making you think the word “nigger,” and that’s even worse — you never would have said or thought it on your own, but there it is, living in your head now.

But anyway, so the larger point would be that I basically agree — intellectually — in the larger point, that words are words, etc, just like in this Carlin bit. But that doesn’t stop my blood from running cold the second I hear or see the word “retard” or “retarded,” as happened later in CK’s set when he said something his 4-year-old daughter did was “borderline retarded.” I could tell by the tone that he didn’t mean anything by it, didn’t think about it at all before it came out, that’s just what he said.

(and in my more honest moments, I have to admit that that’s the word that pops into my head still, to this day, when I think something’s stupid, which I hate)

But it made me not laugh at his joke and then wonder if I was “allowed” to find anything else he said funny or if I should just be offended and dump whatever other enjoyment I got out of his comedy into the trash.

The short story is I still think Louis is funny. But there’s always gonna be that cringe, maybe, waiting for him to pop out with the Word That Dare Not Be Spoken (see, it’s in your head now, though, isn’t it? dammit!)

*I’ll also say that it made me wonder if part of the deal with Louis CK and Carlin and anyone else who so easily brushes off the “it’s just words!” thing is ’cause they’re straight white men. As CK talks about in his special, being a white man is pretty great… what’s somebody going to call you, a “cracker,” which will take you back to the time when you were the only one who could own land and people? I mean, empirically, sure, they “get” why it’s bad, but until something hits you on an emotional level, it’s pretty easy to dismiss.

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And I also started to watch Step Brothers, even though Tim warned me it was bad — and oh, was it ever bad — and noticed that in the first 45 minutes or so that I got through, “retard” was bandied about a few times… not because it was funny, even, just more in a “why the fuck not” kind of way. Which, combined with the “retard” tossed into Semi-Pro for seemingly no funny reason, really puts me off Will Ferrell. Really, Will Ferrell’s repetitious and not-so-funny comedy should put me off Will Ferrell, but there you go. And what I really want to know is if you’re gonna boycott Tropic Thunder for using the word, why did Semi-Pro, released that same summer, get to escape without notice? I’d argue that at least Stiller using “full retard” in that scene had a point that Ferrell’s use of the word didn’t at all, which makes Semi-Pro much more offensive in my book. Not that I agreed with the boycott tactic in the first place…

…but I digress. I wonder, though, if I found Step Brothers to be more funny, would I be finding excuses for the use of retard in the movie? Don’t know, really, ’cause it wasn’t and I don’t have any.

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Back to the boycott thing, again, I mostly think it was a boneheaded tactic. Does some more attention need to be paid to the way we use language and how that affects people? Sure. Is a boycott/banning the way to approach that? I really don’t think so. I’d point to some of the letters I wrote a few months back as a way to start a dialogue about that issue, which occurred again just yesterday. One of the dad blogs that I read pretty regularly, MetroDad, had a post up on Monday talking about a three-year-old’s sense of humor. And number four on his list was “retarded knock-knock jokes.” Now, MetroDad has proven himself to be both a good writer and a fairly sensitive sort — though not above the potty humor I often enjoy — so I was pretty surprised to see him throw that out there.  And to his credit, when I posted a blog comment about it — nothing inflammatory, just a hey now:

delurking from portland… was maybe going to delurk anyway to comment on your use of the word “retarded,” but then you asked about delurkers, so there you go….

Anyway, I won’t burden you with my own bullshit about using that word, but would ask that you use it and mean it rather than throwing it around casually, which is apparently my approach these days as I refine the feeling I get in the pit of my stomach whenever I see it in print or hear it in a movie.

sorry, oversharing blog comments, yay!

Your Peanut sounds hi-larious, seriously. get her an agent and a tv show and i’ll start DVRing that shit.

I noticed the next day that he had changed the topic to “insanely stupid knock-knock jokes.” I wrote him a quick e-mail thanking him for the change — even though he’s going to have the insanely stupid people all over him now — and he responded pretty much the way I kind of thought he would: that he just wasn’t really thinking about it and it popped out there, but he realized it was hinky pretty quickly.

And to me, that’s how it’s going to change — by making people aware, by maybe talking to people about it rather than raising their hackles. Or it could just never go away and I’ll just keep fighting the good fight about it. Or maybe one day I’ll be over it.

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Anyway, this is a totally fractured piece now, written (as it were) over the course of a week or so. At least I warned up front that it was going to be like diarrhea of the fingers. And one more thing I have to note: looking back through my recent archives, it’s been a while since I’ve specifically written about Down syndrome… almost since the Tropic Thunder stuff first happened, which since I think about it so much, kind of surprises me. But I think it also means that I am ever so slowly getting over at least some of the day-to-day dealings with that as I focus more and more on what it mean’s to just be Archer’s dad, rather than Archer (who has Down syndrome)’s dad. Which is a good thing.

But all that said, Down syndrome action is happening today: while picking up my lunch, I noticed one of the guys behind me and wondered for a second if maybe he had T21. But then I decided he was too “normal” looking, whatever that means — again, not free of stereotypes over here — and said to myself “nah.” But after listening to him order his food — very clearly, but with some speech impediment, I realized I had been right the first time. I didn’t really talk to him, ’cause I’m just not that guy — and wouldn’t that be a bit presumptuous — but I did say hi and ask how his day was going. And I was reassured by his demeanor and obvious awareness and capability and even style, as well as the way he was treated by the dude behind the counter. And it gave me — yes, it’s a cliche these days, but screw it — hope.

And with that, I must end this thing. If you actually made it through this entire piece of nonsense, I salute you and thank you for coming along with the totally stream of consciousness spewing that sometimes goes on here.

Maybe I’ll actually edit the next piece a bit.

10 comments

1 julianna { 01.14.09 at 9:17 pm }

Please don’t edit.I learn from you each time. Now that I’ve seen it, I can hardly understand why all the attention was given to Tropic Thunder. Ugh, in my humble opinion. That said, The Wire is still permeating my dreams -now that I’m getting to have dreams these days, hooray for sleep. Hope to see you soon for some of those Biscuits N’ Gravy.

2 logan { 01.14.09 at 9:20 pm }

i’d only “edit” in the sense that i’d like these blurghs to be a bit more readable sometimes, not that i’m gonna start hiding/containing content… but thanks.

and definitely biscuits and gravy soon! set a date!

3 mr { 01.14.09 at 9:43 pm }

Ponceman is still my favorite: “Geez, I’m retarded, not stupid!”

4 mr { 01.14.09 at 9:44 pm }

Oh, and I’m glad to see you’re promising food to others. *Ahem* Puerco pibli…

5 Welcome to Illinois { 01.15.09 at 12:16 am }

I do think that context has a lot to do with whether the use of the r word is offensive or not, which is the main reason I thought the Tropic Thunder protest was misguided (that and the fact that a protest was not the right way to get the message across). The use in Semi-Pro was much worse – it was just chucked in for a cheap laugh. The fact that the rest of the film was so awful didn’t help much though.

6 Jen { 01.18.09 at 3:58 am }

That word is so overused and thrown around so carelessly that it almost doesn’t mean anything anymore. Almost. That said, it still fills me with bitterness, embarassment, and who knows what other b.s. when I hear it. Especially when I hear it from people I know, who know my child, and who should know better. That’s why I think it doesn’t hold any meaning to most people these days; it’s just another word in their lexicon that at one point in time was derogatory to a certain group of people but is now something that’s heard so often it’s lost its zing for the majority of the population. I’m still really sorting out how I feel about it. I’m certainly guilty of having it pop in my head on occasions.

Will Ferrell just sucks. And it has nothing to do with his choice of language either.

7 Sheridan { 01.18.09 at 10:29 am }

I love Louis C.K. I think he is one of the best out there.

You know I cringe every time I hear that word… and how much FUNNIER their piece would be if they came up with something original and creative and unexpected. I cannot, CANNOT help myself… I really enjoy Will Ferrell. Even when the movies are terrible. I’ve actually seen Step Brothers 3 times, and I KNOW it is not a good movie. *sigh*

8 jonashpdx { 01.19.09 at 9:29 am }

i think ferrell’s W. impression is pretty awesome and liked “talladega nights” a lot, but can’t really deal with most of his other so-called work.

oh, and “the landlord,” that short is pretty funny.

but CK, that guy is good.

9 Sheridan { 01.24.09 at 8:37 pm }

I loved “The Landlord”… but I agree that a lot of his quickly churned out stuff of late is bad… Semi-Pro is unwatchable. But I even laughed a couple times during that horrible film!

CK is right up there with Patton Oswalt for me… Patton is my favorite funny man out there.

10 Tricia { 02.09.09 at 10:36 am }

Wow. I sure do wish I had more time to pop in and read. Love this post. Going to try harder to come here more often! Archer is a love, by the way!

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